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lozertuser - Group: The Fake Administrator - Total Posts: 2219
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Posted on: 01/31/11 01:12PM

Gelbooru isn't having bandwidth issues, it is SadPanda that is. The issue Gelbooru is having is spare CPU time for generating the millions of daily page loads.



Lurkerella - Group: Member - Total Posts: 24
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Posted on: 01/31/11 02:46PM

genzoman - Chile - genzoman.deviantart.com/
ivan_flores - United States - transfuse.deviantart.com/
gavade - United Kingdom - gavade.deviantart.com/



Lurkerella - Group: Member - Total Posts: 24
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Posted on: 02/06/11 03:55PM

Users oldblood and cejix brought back Reiq tag and artworks...

I hate people like this.



viperper - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2
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Posted on: 02/11/11 06:16PM

Oh great, time to upload some genuine Japanese made mediocre arts that will stay on this site!

The thing is, it's true that most western crap is stick figures in MS paint, but some are very good artists who can draw well, and without knowing their names most can't differentiate their works with the Japanese one. 100% deletion of their art is bit harsh.



Gelicious - Group: Member - Total Posts: 5
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Posted on: 02/13/11 04:56AM

(Pasted from gelbooru.com/index.php?pa...p;id=1338&pid=0#13972)

I just saw in the front page some pictures that were deleted, but actually looked pretty much like japanese hentai. Also, I went to check "noill" and discovered that all of his drawings were deleted (even though his style is "japanese-inspired", to put it in some way) (rule34.paheal.net/post/list/noill/1)

Anyway, I think it is not such a good idea to delete non-Japanese artists' drawings (because of the fact that it is difficult to know each artist's nationality, and that it is sort of racist if it's just about the artist), as long as the drawings themselves are Japanese-styled.

tl;dr: What should be deleted is non-Japanese styled drawings, not non-Japanese artist drawings.



biibii801 - Group: Retired Staff - Total Posts: 164
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Posted on: 02/13/11 05:50AM

Gelicious said:

tl;dr: What should be deleted is non-Japanese styled drawings, not non-Japanese artist drawings.


The point isn't the art style. We aren't even trying to be 'racist'. As the first post says, Gelbooru is and always has been a Japanese themed site. This "Japanese artist only" rule is the result of having to get stricter and stricter because people couldn't understand that. Anime/manga and Japanese video games in general were allowed, but then we got a ton of Avatar and Ben 10 and similar shows because "they're anime style!". So we cut it down to only allowing fan-art of anime/manga and Japanese video games by Western artists, but then it was "you allowed THIS by a Western artist, why can't this original art be allowed?"

And so here we are.

You can't define something as "Japanese themed" by something as weak as the art style. Because how do you define "Japanese style"? It's not like all Japanese artists draw in anime/manga style, it's just most of the ones who get noticed on the internet do because of how it's popularity is growing here. There are Japanese artists who draw realistic/semi-realistic art, or art inspired by Western cartoons and comics.

How do you even define anime/manga style? Yes, there's something clearly cartoonish about it, but there's something cartoonish about...cartoons, Western or Eastern or otherwise. OK, so lets say anime/manga has lots of overly-large, shiny eyes. OOPS, there goes a lot of shonen, seinen, and even some josei, all of which are "subtypes" in anime/manga. Small mouths? Oh, wait, lots of cartoons have that. Simplified noses? Nope, still covering most cartoons.

Continuing on the "delete the non-Japanese styled drawings"--there goes quite a bit of Panty & Stocking With Garterbelt, a Japanese cartoon (anime) which is largely inspired by Western cartoons. Getting rid of non-Japanese artists gives us a much smaller, more definable area of what to ban to fit the theme of the website--Japan.

tl;dr: changed my mind, you don't get a tl;dr. Just read it.



senpai - Group: Member - Total Posts: 91
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Posted on: 02/14/11 05:57AM

internethatemachine told me to rant here
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you should really NOT group every "western artist" together. have you seen dfers art? what he draws falls exactly into the category of what gelbooru excepts, it is well-drawn japanese/anime-focused. (this has nothing to do with forum #653.) imho you should replace (the rule) "Anything not drawn by a Japanese artist is not allowed." with "Anything western-style is not allowed.", that way artists (such as dfer can post their (good anime-style NON-western looking) art, if some person starts uploading "western-style" art you can still remove it because its western-style (or because its not high enough quality. you can define "western-quality" however you want. giving you (the MODs lots of leeway)) its a win win situation, there would still be no excuse as forum #653 states. it is still "focusing on Japanese artists."("focusing" doesn't mean "exclude everyone but..") as you seem to think it does.

besides its not like you can even tell what somebodys nationality is by looking at a picture they drew. imho you people are turning in to danbooru, i wouldn't be surprised if you started banning loli and charging us to fap.
p.s. i'm probably not going to buy one of your shirts anymore.



biibii801 - Group: Retired Staff - Total Posts: 164
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Posted on: 02/14/11 06:02AM

For the sake of not de-railing the other topic, I'll just reply here

senpai said:
its so much better than what some shitty Japanese artists have here. Just cause they are Japanese doesn't mean they're art is great.
>:[


If the art is poor quality it's deleted, regardless of where the artist is from.



internetlovemachine - Group: Fleet Admiral Cat - Total Posts: 3836
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Posted on: 02/14/11 06:18AM

senpai said:
besides its not like you can even tell what somebodys nationality is by looking at a picture they drew.

That's why I won't delete an artist unless I can source where they're from from a deviantart page or something. In worst case scenarios where I can't find that information I'll only delete them if the image is 100% Western in design. We're not just deleting whatever we please with the Non-Jap rule because we don't like it, you know.

imho you people are turning in to danbooru,

If beginning to properly moderate the site better is turning it into Danbooru, so be it. Sorry we're not keeping this place a lawless mess.

If it were my call, I'd probably delete Western artists on a case-by-case basis like we used to, but that opens up too much room for people to complain. If we truly were turning into a better looking Danbooru, we'd probably ban those people from the site, but we don't. So instead it becomes a case of the few spoiling it for the many.

wouldn't be surprised if you started banning loli and charging us to fap.

Heh.

p.s. i'm probably not going to buy one of your shirts anymore.

P-PLEASE BUY ONE MISTER IM SORRY ;_;



xavier3058 - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2
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Posted on: 02/20/11 07:15AM

biibii801 said:
Continuing on the "delete the non-Japanese styled drawings"--there goes quite a bit of Panty & Stocking With Garterbelt, a Japanese cartoon (anime) which is largely inspired by Western cartoons.
So the western art style is acceptable, but only when it's validated by Japanese artists?

If you cannot discern whether or not the artist is of Japanese origin without looking it up somewhere, how does it make any sense to remove their art on the premise that it's not "Japanese-themed," at that point?

If the entire distinction is based upon the race of the artist, with quality being a (distantly) secondary consideration, then how do you figure it's not a racist policy?

How do photographs of Americans cosplaying as Japanese characters still qualify as "Japanese-themed" in light of all of this?



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