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Dirty_Harry - Group: Moderator - Total Posts: 628
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Posted on: 07/27/16 07:26PM

Does anyone own one? If yes, how do you like it and what is it's price range? If you don't own one, can you even imagine giving it a try? If not, why?

Personally, I own an Oukitel K6000 (des.gearbest.com/uploads/...or/201512030942205497.JPG). Currently around $100 USD.
Prior to that I've had the iPhone4 for a really long time. Thanks to that, I'm well aware of the shortcomings of my new phone. The audio quality is mediocre (sound chip and speaker), definitely not as good, as it was with the iPhone. Same goes for the microphone. The lack of the compass sensor is disappointing. When navigating, I can tell where I am, but not which direction I'm facing. The screen quality is meh. The colors begin to invert, if you tilt the phone. But they claim it's an IPS screen. Whatever. The cam can't keep up with flagships (actually, it's even worse than my old iPhone4's), but it's usable. Example in good lighting conditions: imgur.com/uhtZAoe. It sucks in bad light.

So, what's even so good about this cheap Chinese thing? - You might ask. Obviously, the low price. I was able to sell my old phone and get my new phone (used, but good as new) for the same price. Which makes this a free upgrade, lol. But that's not even the strong point. This phone offers something you can't find even in flagship devices. A proper 6000 mAh battery. What does that mean? With the same screen brightness (200 candela/m²), the K6000 gets 16,5 hours screen on time in PC Mark benchmark. Under the same conditions, the Samsung Galaxy S6 only gets 6 hours.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9LlA3YFDQc - 30 min video playback costs 5% battery
We are talking about nearly 3x longer operation time. Because of this, the phone needs to be charged 3 times less often. So the batterie's charging cycles get used up 3x slower. After 1000 cycles a rechargeable battery is pretty much fked. So if you charge your phone daily, your battery loses much of it's capacity after 2 years. But the K6000 is different. It just doesn't give a fk and can last over 6 years. The manufacturer claims to have used the best battery supplier in China. So this thing is different from all other cheap chinaphones too. And it should be fairly safe, because Oukitel is a respectable brand and they claim safety is a priority.

Another strong point is it's charger. This huge battery charges fully in the same time, as your normal phone does, maybe even faster. Normal chargers put out 5V and 1mAh, fast chargers put out 5V and 2mAh. This one does 12V and 2mAh. So, if you forgot to charge your phone earlier, you can get a lot more charge in just 10-15 minutes, before leaving.

I'm also amazed at the glass. Been using the phone for 3-4 months now, without any protective foil on the screen. And there is not a single scratch on it. For this price range, that's amazing, I think.
"The secret behind Oukitel K6000’s very tough screen is the glass being used. It is not Gorilla Glass as you might expect, but Dragontrail Glass. Dragontrail, while not as popular, is a very tough glass, as previous Sony devices using the same material have proved. In the video above, the Oukitel K6000 is not hammered down by a metallic hammer, but a rubber mullet, which of course isn’t as destructing, but still, it is not something we would want to see happen to our phones."
www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-qTUIgm9zc - official screen hammering
youtu.be/JmM0pWsThXU?t=4m26s - independent screen hammering

I like this phone a lot. Because I don't have to charge it as often and I can finally use automatic brightness. Prior to this, I had to manually adjust brightness, trying to conserve the battery. To me, being able to see the damn screen outdoors, was a luxury, so I feel like a high roller now. Definitely worth every penny, despite it's shortcomings, at least for me. Others drag a powerbank with them. But this phone is a powerbank in itself.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiPz7E-gFyU - built-in powerbank (simultaneous reverse-charging of 4 devices (as shown) is bullshit, as the phone can only provide 5V 1mAh, which gets split between 4 devices. 0,25mAh means painfully slow "charging".)
I really like it, because I don't have to worry about running out of battery. It's truly a purpose-built mobile device, made to be used. It's got my back, unlike any other phone. Well, aside of the monstrous K10000, which is thick as a brick and something only a madman would carry around.

It always takes an unknown player to shake up the game. All the established manufacturers keep building the same phone, essentially.



lhixl90 - Group: Moderator - Total Posts: 267
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Posted on: 07/28/16 12:00AM

You sure it wont send your info to the Chinese? j/k

Now I am tempted to get one of the Chinese brand cause its so cheap, need a new one to start playing Pokemon Go maybe



Anti_Gendou - Group: Moderator - Total Posts: 4366
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Posted on: 07/28/16 12:54AM

Chances of it sending something to China is actually pretty high. Then again, I'll bet that's happening no matter where you get your phone from.

China is at the center of most hacking and phishing bullshit. That or everyone defaults their proxies to show up that way, false flag style. But given China being China... let's just assume China is hacking everything.

If you don't use it for anything that you care about others knowing though... well sure.

As long as you remember the post about Chinese citizens not buying Chinese cars... guess what. They don't buy Chinese smart phones either I'll bet.



Dirty_Harry - Group: Moderator - Total Posts: 628
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Posted on: 07/28/16 01:31AM

Yes, I don't do banking on my phone. Because it's just not a secure device, no matter what brand. Meaning, it's a "computer" with no antimalware/antivirus software installed. Because I don't want it to slow down my phone and drain my battery. For all I care they can look at the shit ton of hentai on my phone. I'm sure they pull so much data (in general), it turns anonymous anyway, because it's such a peerless ocean of information. Noone can look through it all, or make any sense of it, aside of big data AI. Im sure every government does it already. Whatever, mp3 and porn on a phone, that's nothing new. Also, if you attend a protest(even masked), your government can put you on a list, because your phone has been detected in a certain area at a specific time. So compromised tech is really nothing new either. Built-in backdoors in windows are a thing, thanks to US gorvernment pressuring microsoft. No business in Europe gets Cisco Systems routers anymore, because their backdoors are bad for business. Industrial espionage, lol. No EU business wants to use microsoft's cloud storage, because of a case where the US government demanded data from microsoft's cloud servers stationed outside of the US. "Ok google/hey Siri" - your phone always listens. Even the fkin xbox does, or did. And LG did it too, with their TVs. Privacy? What privacy? Remember how FBI demanded from Apple to build in a backdoor into iOS? Some politicians even want to remove encryption altogether. And last, but not least, NSA stores all your online activity and metadata, of course, indefinitely, lol. Your phone being Chinese is the least of your worries.

@Anti_Gendou Oh, I assure you, it's very different with phones. The Chinese do buy Chinese phones, especially such established brands like Xiaomi, LeTV/LeECO, Zoppo... And have you ever heard of Oneplus? Very hot Chinese brand in Europe and US. Recently a lot of new Brands came out of nowhere, I can only conclude it's a profitable business for the Chinese. Oukitel is one of the recently spawned brands. It's just 2 years old, or so. Up until recently, Xiaomi was considered the Chinese Apple, but now it's definitely LeECO. Here, take a look: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUcDoITdGZo
They've built a phone without a 3,5 jack, before Apple did. And they build everything from TVs to cars. They are seriously dope and their phones are in a different league/price range (around $350). www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCdcBj1sP4

@lhixl90 make sure you do your research. Watch a few reviews on youtube. Maybe you want to take a look at the Oukitel K6000 PRO. It wasn't available when I bought mine. But it's a better device, with better screen (1080p, instead of 720p), better cam (sony sensor), better cpu, more ram (3GB, instead of 2GB), more storage (32gb, instead of 16gb), fingerprint scanner and costs only around $130-$140 now. What are you looking for in a phone? I wanted a nice battery more than specs.



Maximinimal - Group: Member - Total Posts: 754
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Posted on: 10/05/21 12:36PM

My now former group of friends told me these are the new "PC" and they also said that it's because of its price range is well below an average salary of a top tiered american office guy,they could afford 20 of them,no problem,but I feel worried about the hazards posed by a single wasted phone,never mind 20,and whenever I tried to get them to be conscious about it,they use borderline actions to mark their entitlement. I feel sad it has to be like that.



DEVILFISH97 - Group: Member - Total Posts: 130
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Posted on: 10/05/21 06:44PM

Such a long ad lol. Did your accounts get taken by chinese bots

I have a nokia in the same price range, and it seems pretty similar. Althought they say all parts come from china so I guess its a chinese smartphone too.



Hinata_2-8 - Group: Member - Total Posts: 74
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Posted on: 10/05/21 07:20PM

All phones are technically made in China. Rare Earth Elements were produced and processed in China, electronic parts were built in China, most of materials needed are available in China, the Chinese workforce is bigger than the rest of the world.

Well, we can say there is not a phone not made in China. Even Nokia's old phone models were outsourced in China. Even Apple had Chinese plants, before Trump clamped US-China trade.



PietroSoft - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2500
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Posted on: 10/05/21 07:35PM

Hinata_2-8 said:
All phones are technically made in China.

Correct. If you pay extra you can get good China stuff. Like Apple does.
I used to be a fan of the Chinese smartphone world. I even had a few Chinese smartphones. I had a few Xiaomis, they were good for the money. Also a phone from the dead brand, LeEco. They were great for experimenting with root and advanced Android stuff. Now i am not that interested in that stuff, so i got an LG G8X from ebay, it was cheap, and it is quite smooth thanks to the Snap 855. Lovely phone, also from a dead smartphone brand haha.

If you asked me now, for a nice cheap chinese smartphone i would recommend you a Realme, Redmi or Poco. They offer a lot of value per money. The sad part is well... When you use the GPS on your Chinese smartphone: i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/479/693/4cf.gif



Maximinimal - Group: Member - Total Posts: 754
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Posted on: 10/06/21 03:08AM

DEVILFISH97 said:
Did your accounts get taken by chinese bots

No,they often used a poorly setup intranet operated and sponsored by the CCP,they don't even know anything about this,nevermind setting up an account just to piss someone off ala one-night-stand.



Maximinimal - Group: Member - Total Posts: 754
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Posted on: 10/06/21 03:22AM

PietroSoft said:
When you use the GPS on your Chinese smartphone

Digital mapping laws under military influence often times prevent hi-def navigation,to the point that even major protocol streets are censored/straight up erased..yeah it's best to use the one from google,though there are still inaccuracies for certain parts of the world/censored at a certain spot,it's better to have it than using a government approved ones,as this one limits to the only country it trusts.



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