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anon-sama3 - Group: Member - Total Posts: 28
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When does it become an addiction?
Posted on: 04/11/24 09:47PM

I dont consider myself a porn addict, but I do frequent imageboard multiple times a day. I'm not jacking off all day. I got bills and a job. But I'm just curious, when does it become an issue?



supremz - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1604
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Posted on: 04/11/24 09:53PM

When you accept Jesus as your savior :)



ThePigeon - Group: Member - Total Posts: 5915
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Posted on: 04/11/24 09:58PM

When you cum milk powder.

Good question.

I guess when you avoid common healthy activities to visit here. This place should be a pastime, not your life. Don't become like me.



SadSap - Group: Member - Total Posts: 3588
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Posted on: 04/11/24 10:00PM

That's a good question; as I've been seeking a concrete answer for myself and for awhile now.

My analysis as of now is simply this:
-If it interferes with your life.
-If you spend more time looking at porn and jerking off than you do any other thing, especially those that are productive activities.
-If it causes you enough distress where you want to quit but you just can't no matter how hard you try.
-If you have to stop doing important things immediately in order to masturbate.
-If you look at porn multiple times a day that exceeds a time limit of two hours.
-If normal porn isn't doing it for you anymore, you need to seek worse content and disgusting fetishes stuff to get off.
-If you actually do risky behavior, such as watching porn in public and edge yourself while others are in your vicinity.

If you suffer from one or more of these, then it would qualify, in my humble opinion, as a legitimate porn addiction. That's when you should stop and seek help as best you can.

Anything that doesn't reach that level, then you're fine.

Porn addiction isn't really defined clinically as of now, so there's no real concrete studies or diagnoses.



BrothelGospel - Group: Member - Total Posts: 24
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Posted on: 04/12/24 02:43AM

anon-sama3 said:
I'm not jacking off all day. I got bills and a job.


I'm sure everyone has experienced this:

You're a teenage, you're left home alone one day, you feel for the first time the freedom to be stupid and sexual around.
You casually jerk off so much many times that you simply think that NOBODY EVER has done that.
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The first time that happens to you it feels abnormal, but it's honestly just an unusual way to explore the boundaries of your sexual appetite when your hormones are crazy af. But even though, you're not really a degenerate for doing that, it's actually completely normal.

If you ever get accustomed to doing so, you maybe are a hypersexual person. People with a strong libido that may not be jerking off every moment, but feel that sexual appetite even after you just finished having sex with someone or just after you had a good jerk.

However, it's not considered an addiction if it doesn't actively stop you from your daily activities.
Porn addiction or Sex addiction may mean that you would feel the need to masturbate at work or during casual activities, or not caring about people that might caught you up. And it would mean that you'd prefer, for example, jerking off again before doing something urgent and important even though you may miss an unique opportunity.

Now, it's pretty common that you may find everyone calling porn addiction stuff like watching porn everywhere on the internet (Despite the internet being filled with porn so it's not so hard to do that) or just by, idk, actively searching for porn sites and galleries like Gelbooru... I'm gonna be honest. That's bullshit. Despite doing this having an effect on the brain... because, YEAH it's true that you could be doing something better for your brain health. But it's pretty much the same kind of forceful stimuli that just being ""addicted"" to tiktok or youtube shorts. You're just pushing dopamine constantly in your brain. You're just becoming brain smooth.

But if you consume erotic material as a hobby or just the way you enjoy your day and time alone, it's not risky, then you're good to go.



soarel - Group: Member - Total Posts: 21
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Posted on: 04/12/24 08:37AM

"Porn addiction" does not even exist. It's not recognized by any credible psychological or psychiatric organizations, and the mechanism by which it supposedly would work is nonsense.

The concept was invented by religious conservatives who consider *any* amount of masturbation to constitute "addiction", because they adhere to sexual ethics that regard the act as morally wrong. It's been popularized in secular communities by grifters like Gary Wilson whose job is trying to sell you pseudoscientific snake oil cures for a nonexistent problem. Research has shown that whether one self-identifies as a "porn addict" has little to do with how much they masturbate, and far more to do with their religious and social views.

slate.com/human-interest/...is-that-a-real-thing.html

If looking at booru sites or masturbating isn't interfering with the rest of your life, you don't have a problem. My advice is to stop listening to hucksters online whose goal is trying to sell you something, whether it's their whackjob religious views or some fraudulent "self-help program" founded on pseudoscience.



Anti_Gendou - Group: Moderator - Total Posts: 4370
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Posted on: 04/12/24 11:11AM

I believe porn addiction is real but it doesn't work the same way as drugs.
It is more like video game addiction, even if not classified as such. [yet]

The product is not the drug, the product is producing the drug in your brain.



soarel - Group: Member - Total Posts: 21
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Posted on: 04/12/24 11:46AM

Anti_Gendou said:
I believe porn addiction is real but it doesn't work the same way as drugs.
It is more like video game addiction, even if not classified as such. [yet]

The product is not the drug, the product is producing the drug in your brain.


That's not how chemical dependency works, this "muh dopamine" pop-science is a complete and fundamental misunderstanding of the subject.

If you have a nicotine addiction, you don’t have a dependency on the act of smoking a cigarette, you have a dependency on the chemical nicotine. A nicotine addict can get the same effect and avoid withdrawal by smoking a cigar, vaping, or using a non-smoking method of taking in nicotine (such as a nicotine patch). The addiction, the drug dependency, is on receiving the chemical, not the method of receiving it. It’s for this exact reason that nicotine patches are used to wean people off smoking. If the mechanism by which “porn addiction” worked is that you somehow developed a chemical dependency on the dopamine produced by your own body as a result of masturbating, then your dependency wouldn’t be on the act of masturbating, but dopamine itself. This would mean your “addiction” would actually be an addiction to ANY highly pleasurable activity, and what you actually do to feel good would be completely interchangeable, just like with an actual drug addiction. The “porn addiction” concept, however, asserts that the “addiction” is specifically to the act of masturbating (specifically while watching porn, which is even more ultra-specific), which is…not how drug dependency works, even if you could become chemically dependent on dopamine produced in your own brain. The whole edifice is completely pseudoscientific and falls apart under the most basic consideration. If “porn addiction” was real, then heroin addicts wouldn’t be addicted to heroin, but to the act of putting a needle in their arm, and alcoholics would be addicted to the act of drinking pretty much any liquid at all, as opposed to the actual fucking chemicals their body has become dependent on.

It's also really funny how selectively the "muh dopamine" argument gets applied. Petting dogs, looking at sunsets, reading books, watching movies, and taking walks on the beach all have the same neurochemical effect, and yet somehow, I don’t see anyone insisting you can be “addicted“ to any of these things, let alone that merely being interested in them or doing them regularly constitutes “addiction” to them.



Orphan_crippler - Group: Member - Total Posts: 410
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Posted on: 04/12/24 04:25PM

It becomes an addiction when you no longer want to FAP, just look at it all day, and when you FAP you don't even enjoy it because you are soft even ho you think it's really good, and when you "finish" only milk powder cums out.

Stop it, don't be like me, I will sue you for identity theft.



ThePigeon - Group: Member - Total Posts: 5915
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Posted on: 04/12/24 04:33PM

Orphan_crippler said:
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youtu.be/WaaANll8h18?t=66



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