Edit | Leave a Comment | Favorite
More Like This: (Beta Temporary Feature)
User Comments:
Daijin commented at 2014-04-18 06:47:38 » #1521177
The trap tag is specfically for male characters that trick a person into thinking he is female when seeing the image thumbnail before clicking to see the full image.
Your logic with futanari fails as they have the body of a female, i.e. breasts, but both sets of genitals and the rule for tagging futanari is you can only add the tag if both sets of genitals are visible in the image.
The tag definitions are very specific and futanari and trap do not crisscross.
5 Points
Flag
The trap tag is specfically for male characters that trick a person into thinking he is female when seeing the image thumbnail before clicking to see the full image.
Your logic with futanari fails as they have the body of a female, i.e. breasts, but both sets of genitals and the rule for tagging futanari is you can only add the tag if both sets of genitals are visible in the image.
The tag definitions are very specific and futanari and trap do not crisscross.
5 Points
Flag
Jerl commented at 2014-04-19 02:15:56 » #1521598
icejuice: the difference here is that the "trap" tag is defined by the thumbnail, whereas futa is not.
We don't use the "trap" tag here as a term for effeminate boys crossdressing. We use the actual root usage that lead to "trap" being used as a term: an image or character that tricks you into looking at it thinking that you'll be looking at an image of a girl, but that being a trap to make you look at a boy instead.
You're right, the trap isn't in the thumbnail.
The trap is the thumbnail. The thumbnail its self is the trap.
Yes, the term has since changed in common usage and is now used quite differently elsewhere. However, we have and already had tags that fill that niche: crossdressing, androgynous, and in certain cases newhalf.
What is the common usage of a trap? An effeminate boy, or a crossdressing boy. It used to be both at once, but it's gotten to a point where being one or the other is enough for common usage. So, that gives us two points to tag based on.
This is problematic in two ways, though. First, each tag can only have one meaning, can only describe one thing about an image, however using trap in its common usage provides inconsistency. We call cases like this "composite tags", where one tag is used for several different kinds of similar, but different things.
We generally do not allow composite tags.
In such cases, instead we break the composite tags into its component parts, and tag those instead. For example we do not use a tag for catgirls; we have a tag for cat ears, cat tails, cat paws, etc. Similarly, we don't have a tag for schoolgirls; we have tags for school uniforms, gym clothes, school swimsuits, classrooms, etc.
So, if we were to use "trap" as its common usage, it would immediately need to be broken into its components, which happen to be effeminate boys, and crossdressing boys. Or, the androgynous and crossdressing tags, respectively.
This leads into the second reason why using "trap" as it is commonly used would be problematic: it would immediately be redundant with crossdressing and androgynous. Just like each tag can only have one meaning, there can only be one tag for each given meaning. Tags which are redundant with each other are disallowed, and only one tag or tag combination for any given meaning must be chosen and used. We would therefore need to choose between either only using "trap", or only using the tags androgynous and crossdressing. We must make this decision based on what is actually more useful for searching, and allowing more fine-grained searches takes priority over using a common term used in the community. For that matter, if there is a non-slang term for a given meaning, it will almost always be chosen over all slang terms just by merit of not being slang. Because of these two criteria, we must choose to use crossdressing and androgynous over trap for this meaning.
So, this means we have two choices. Either we use "trap" to mean something different than what people or used to, or we don't have a trap tag at all. As I said before, having a tag is better than not having one, and we have a non-redundant meaning that we can readily and easily give the new tag, so here we are. On Gelbooru, traps aren't really the characters, they are the images that trap you into thinking that the characters are a different gender than they are.
And that's all there is to it.
6 Points
Flag
icejuice: the difference here is that the "trap" tag is defined by the thumbnail, whereas futa is not.
We don't use the "trap" tag here as a term for effeminate boys crossdressing. We use the actual root usage that lead to "trap" being used as a term: an image or character that tricks you into looking at it thinking that you'll be looking at an image of a girl, but that being a trap to make you look at a boy instead.
You're right, the trap isn't in the thumbnail.
The trap is the thumbnail. The thumbnail its self is the trap.
Yes, the term has since changed in common usage and is now used quite differently elsewhere. However, we have and already had tags that fill that niche: crossdressing, androgynous, and in certain cases newhalf.
What is the common usage of a trap? An effeminate boy, or a crossdressing boy. It used to be both at once, but it's gotten to a point where being one or the other is enough for common usage. So, that gives us two points to tag based on.
This is problematic in two ways, though. First, each tag can only have one meaning, can only describe one thing about an image, however using trap in its common usage provides inconsistency. We call cases like this "composite tags", where one tag is used for several different kinds of similar, but different things.
We generally do not allow composite tags.
In such cases, instead we break the composite tags into its component parts, and tag those instead. For example we do not use a tag for catgirls; we have a tag for cat ears, cat tails, cat paws, etc. Similarly, we don't have a tag for schoolgirls; we have tags for school uniforms, gym clothes, school swimsuits, classrooms, etc.
So, if we were to use "trap" as its common usage, it would immediately need to be broken into its components, which happen to be effeminate boys, and crossdressing boys. Or, the androgynous and crossdressing tags, respectively.
This leads into the second reason why using "trap" as it is commonly used would be problematic: it would immediately be redundant with crossdressing and androgynous. Just like each tag can only have one meaning, there can only be one tag for each given meaning. Tags which are redundant with each other are disallowed, and only one tag or tag combination for any given meaning must be chosen and used. We would therefore need to choose between either only using "trap", or only using the tags androgynous and crossdressing. We must make this decision based on what is actually more useful for searching, and allowing more fine-grained searches takes priority over using a common term used in the community. For that matter, if there is a non-slang term for a given meaning, it will almost always be chosen over all slang terms just by merit of not being slang. Because of these two criteria, we must choose to use crossdressing and androgynous over trap for this meaning.
So, this means we have two choices. Either we use "trap" to mean something different than what people or used to, or we don't have a trap tag at all. As I said before, having a tag is better than not having one, and we have a non-redundant meaning that we can readily and easily give the new tag, so here we are. On Gelbooru, traps aren't really the characters, they are the images that trap you into thinking that the characters are a different gender than they are.
And that's all there is to it.
6 Points
Flag
jedi1357 commented at 2014-04-21 20:09:32 » #1523021
My 2 cents:
"providing a service for people"
No, more of a hobby that serves the site's proprietor.
"a new tagging policy"
Most of our posts are copied wholesale from Danbooru including their tags thus our tagging policies mirror theirs...most of the time.
We don't get paid as employes.
You're welcome to start your own *booru with your own rules. We'll even give you the software for free.
4 Points
Flag
My 2 cents:
"providing a service for people"
No, more of a hobby that serves the site's proprietor.
"a new tagging policy"
Most of our posts are copied wholesale from Danbooru including their tags thus our tagging policies mirror theirs...most of the time.
We don't get paid as employes.
You're welcome to start your own *booru with your own rules. We'll even give you the software for free.
4 Points
Flag
Anonymous commented at 2014-05-13 01:02:36 » #1533995
This site just prove you have toxic ignorant users Daijin and Jerl they don't get it they have hippie-vision not common-vision. I understand the tag perfectly and I saw the penis, in the thumbnail, so it's a not a trap. What there complaining or barking about is mixing the trap tag with... the cross dressing tag. The boy is cross dressing and enjoys it. Calling him a trap is dumb while calling him a cross dresser is better which should be a better tag to remember then pasting "trap" tag on every picture with a visible penis on the cross dresser.
inb4 some random kid pretending to be 18 and above telling me "what are you talking about?"
1 Points
Flag
This site just prove you have toxic ignorant users Daijin and Jerl they don't get it they have hippie-vision not common-vision. I understand the tag perfectly and I saw the penis, in the thumbnail, so it's a not a trap. What there complaining or barking about is mixing the trap tag with... the cross dressing tag. The boy is cross dressing and enjoys it. Calling him a trap is dumb while calling him a cross dresser is better which should be a better tag to remember then pasting "trap" tag on every picture with a visible penis on the cross dresser.
inb4 some random kid pretending to be 18 and above telling me "what are you talking about?"
1 Points
Flag
thedarkness commented at 2014-10-11 17:40:24 » #1615950
So, since the trap tag is back to its original meaning, are all these images going to be unlocked, or what?
2 Points
Flag
So, since the trap tag is back to its original meaning, are all these images going to be unlocked, or what?
2 Points
Flag
1 2