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Anonymous commented at 2015-03-08 23:13:48 » #1701537
This one wasn't.
gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2489035
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This one wasn't.
gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2489035
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Anonymous commented at 2015-03-08 23:32:18 » #1701547
But just about everything uploaded here is high quality, yet most of the american stuff is deleted because it's apparently not japanese enough. WitchKing00's art was all high quality yet most of it was wiped out the instant somebody mentioned he was american.
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But just about everything uploaded here is high quality, yet most of the american stuff is deleted because it's apparently not japanese enough. WitchKing00's art was all high quality yet most of it was wiped out the instant somebody mentioned he was american.
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Jerl commented at 2015-03-08 23:56:41 » #1701562
To quote our Terms of Service:
In regards to this image, since the rule only disallows artwork drawn by a Japanese artist, there is nothing wrong with this image. A Japanese artist could draw art based on anything and it would be allowed, assuming it is high quality and doesn't violate any of the other Terms.
In regards to post #2489035, please note that the rule states that exceptions are given based on quality. While we will often withhold exceptions for images that are drawn in art styles with noticeable western influence or that are based on non-Japanese copyrights, the rule allows for images to be given exception based on quality alone. While rare, we will do this for images that are very, very well drawn. post #2489035 qualifies for such an exception, as would this image if it were drawn by a non-Japanese artist.
As for WitchKing00's artwork, while I'm not sure that I'd say that the artwork its self is bad, it is far lower quality than this image and post #2489035. It's an order of magnitude difference. Keep in mind that we do not consider how erotic or arousing an image is when determining its level of quality.
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To quote our Terms of Service:
Non-Japanese: Anything not drawn by a Japanese artist is not allowed unless given specific exception by the moderation team for quality! Photographs of cosplayers, figures, JAV models, or prominent figures in the industry are acceptable.
In regards to this image, since the rule only disallows artwork drawn by a Japanese artist, there is nothing wrong with this image. A Japanese artist could draw art based on anything and it would be allowed, assuming it is high quality and doesn't violate any of the other Terms.
In regards to post #2489035, please note that the rule states that exceptions are given based on quality. While we will often withhold exceptions for images that are drawn in art styles with noticeable western influence or that are based on non-Japanese copyrights, the rule allows for images to be given exception based on quality alone. While rare, we will do this for images that are very, very well drawn. post #2489035 qualifies for such an exception, as would this image if it were drawn by a non-Japanese artist.
As for WitchKing00's artwork, while I'm not sure that I'd say that the artwork its self is bad, it is far lower quality than this image and post #2489035. It's an order of magnitude difference. Keep in mind that we do not consider how erotic or arousing an image is when determining its level of quality.
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Anonymous commented at 2015-03-09 00:27:35 » #1701572
So basically, Stanley Lau's art is allowed to stay regardless of its content or his country of origin as long as it's drawn good enough even if it's obviously not japanese in any way (post #2575638). What about his lower quality stuff? post #1632727
The problem with the exception to the Non-Japanese rule is that it allows you guys to play favorites with certain non-japanese artists just because they're good and you like them while other non-japanese artists who are also good or sometimes better are wiped out en masse. While I agree WitchKing00's skills are not as good as Stanley Lau's, other artists with comparable skill have been refused the opportunity to show their stuff here.
If all an american artist needs to do is be skilled enough to pass the same quality requirements that all the stuff that is japanese has to pass then the non-japanese rule becomes worthless. A no non-japanese rule should be exactly that: no non-japanese. That exception allows any professional artist that you choose to play favorites with to have their art posted regardless of content.
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So basically, Stanley Lau's art is allowed to stay regardless of its content or his country of origin as long as it's drawn good enough even if it's obviously not japanese in any way (post #2575638). What about his lower quality stuff? post #1632727
The problem with the exception to the Non-Japanese rule is that it allows you guys to play favorites with certain non-japanese artists just because they're good and you like them while other non-japanese artists who are also good or sometimes better are wiped out en masse. While I agree WitchKing00's skills are not as good as Stanley Lau's, other artists with comparable skill have been refused the opportunity to show their stuff here.
If all an american artist needs to do is be skilled enough to pass the same quality requirements that all the stuff that is japanese has to pass then the non-japanese rule becomes worthless. A no non-japanese rule should be exactly that: no non-japanese. That exception allows any professional artist that you choose to play favorites with to have their art posted regardless of content.
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Jerl commented at 2015-03-09 01:49:20 » #1701615
I'm really not sure I'd call that lower quality. That image is actually drawn quite well. Either way, it's still very much better than WitchKing00's artwork.
If images of equal quality to the Stanley Lau artwork you've been linking to has been deleted, that's certainly a problem. Appeal them on the forums and I'm sure that they'll be restored.
On the other hand, image deletion isn't based on the skill of the artist, but rather the quality of the image its self. A 5 star chef could burn a loaf of bread into charcoal, and it wouldn't be any better just because it was a 5 star chef that burned it instead of an amateur. Also keep in mind that art style matters as well. As I stated before, art with noticeable western influence will generally be passed over for an exception regardless of quality.
False. The rule is actually quite important. It does a very good job of discouraging a very large volume of very poor self-uploads that often have absolutely nothing to do with Japan that we would be getting otherwise (and that we did get before the original rule was put in place).
That's kinda the point. Either we allow more high-quality artwork, or we don't allow more high-quality artwork. Which option do you think brings more users to the site? Which option do you think pleases the larger number of users? We aren't here to please artists, we're here to provide high-quality content to our users. Certain artists will be preferred if their art style and quality is higher. That sounds pretty reasonable to me.
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What about his lower quality stuff? post #1632727
I'm really not sure I'd call that lower quality. That image is actually drawn quite well. Either way, it's still very much better than WitchKing00's artwork.
While I agree WitchKing00's skills are not as good as Stanley Lau's, other artists with comparable skill have been refused the opportunity to show their stuff here.
If images of equal quality to the Stanley Lau artwork you've been linking to has been deleted, that's certainly a problem. Appeal them on the forums and I'm sure that they'll be restored.
On the other hand, image deletion isn't based on the skill of the artist, but rather the quality of the image its self. A 5 star chef could burn a loaf of bread into charcoal, and it wouldn't be any better just because it was a 5 star chef that burned it instead of an amateur. Also keep in mind that art style matters as well. As I stated before, art with noticeable western influence will generally be passed over for an exception regardless of quality.
If all an american artist needs to do is be skilled enough to pass the same quality requirements that all the stuff that is japanese has to pass then the non-japanese rule becomes worthless.
False. The rule is actually quite important. It does a very good job of discouraging a very large volume of very poor self-uploads that often have absolutely nothing to do with Japan that we would be getting otherwise (and that we did get before the original rule was put in place).
That exception allows any professional artist that you choose to play favorites with to have their art posted regardless of content.
That's kinda the point. Either we allow more high-quality artwork, or we don't allow more high-quality artwork. Which option do you think brings more users to the site? Which option do you think pleases the larger number of users? We aren't here to please artists, we're here to provide high-quality content to our users. Certain artists will be preferred if their art style and quality is higher. That sounds pretty reasonable to me.
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