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bauls90 - Group: Member - Total Posts: 1195
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Posted on: 03/06/25 06:58PM

Narukovore said:
I'm asking about what happened to her after she escaped in the comics (where they actually explain where was Zuko's mom)

My head canon is that Azula puts Mai her place by taking Zuko for herself >:)

Hey, prison time was hard she needs some love from her big brother ;)



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Posted on: 03/06/25 08:51PM

That Korra, the ender of times

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Malachite - Group: Member - Total Posts: 56
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Posted on: 03/06/25 09:00PM

Damn, I sleep for 5 hours and mfs ignite!!

But on the SU thing before I accidently derail (again),
Honestly I could also just be mad that Rebecca lied about what Future would be: a no-Steven spinoff that includes more of Homeworld. Emerald, voiced by one of my favorite performers ever, was supposed to come back.
But instead it's just a new season of the same show (that I was already starting to dislike despite loving the first handful of seasons) that only shows Earth and earth gems, and has an extremely shitty ending I couldn't finish because yeah, it was the "alright CN needs to air more Teen Titans Go finish the fucking series Sugar". I did like at least some of the episodes. Jasper's was good. Bluebird is fucking awesome.
But nawr. If your family who haven't been able to connect with you really for years and try to cheer you up by doing what they only know, and you kinda just go "dont care, dont like that anymore" its a kick to the balls for them trying to do something nice. Also I'm 99% sure he made up being vegan just to reject the gems because it NEVER comes up again (iirc anyways).


But - I dunno if I like the idea of the Avatar being the next big villain. I mean, in theory it's kinda cool to have the new villain be this master of the bending arts, but... also, why Korra? Why not just start a new show about a new avatar and a new villain? Given the twitter post Pollix posted, it seems like people agree with it... and given that she is a gay character, and the history of making villains gay as a demonizing tactic... dunno, doesn't sit right with me.



Hee-Ho - Group: Member - Total Posts: 4902
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Posted on: 03/06/25 09:09PM

Narukovore said:
You mean Steven in Future? When he snapped after all the shit he went through? Yeah, what an asshole :/

You can say that the same to Ruby Rose, but that doesn't stop the fact that it's poorly written and unlearned.
I can list a lot of characters who went through this journey who were actually genuine. With Steven, he was never punished from his mistakes (even from the start), instead the show gives him free powers like a giveaway to the point he became a gary stu. Even if there was a attempt, they downplay his actions for plot sake.

Eh.
But even with its flaws, I wouldn't call the series "awful". More of a mixed bag, with good elements but bad execution.

You can like the show, I enjoyed it out of how bad this is. And it makes it funnier when I check BTS pbs.twimg.com/media/DEk4dTCWsAARjq8.jpg. But I'm not pretending that this show is "mid", because it isn't. Sure, there are good things about the show like you said, but it's like a diamond in a sea of shit.



Malachite - Group: Member - Total Posts: 56
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Posted on: 03/06/25 09:22PM

Hee-Ho said:
And it makes it funnier when I check BTS pbs.twimg.com/media/DEk4dTCWsAARjq8.jpg.


HAHAHAAHAHAH WHAT THE FUCK I FORGOT ABOUT THAT



Narukovore - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2480
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Posted on: 03/06/25 10:41PM

Malachite said:
Damn, I sleep for 5 hours and mfs ignite!!

But on the SU thing before I accidently derail (again),
Honestly I could also just be mad that Rebecca lied about what Future would be: a no-Steven spinoff that includes more of Homeworld. Emerald, voiced by one of my favorite performers ever, was supposed to come back.
But instead it's just a new season of the same show (that I was already starting to dislike despite loving the first handful of seasons) that only shows Earth and earth gems, and has an extremely shitty ending I couldn't finish because yeah, it was the "alright CN needs to air more Teen Titans Go finish the fucking series Sugar".

Exactly when did Rebecca lied about what Future was going to be about? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall she ever said that Future would be a no-Steven spin-off where Emerald comes back. I think that's just what you wanted Future to be about, so really you're just mad your imaginative no Steven show wasn't made.
And hey, I get it. I'm also mad we didn't get a Lapis and Peridot spin-off that allowed them to be protagonists, oficially become a lesbian couple, and FINALLY FUSE! I mean c'mon, why did they never fuse!? "It's because Lapis has trauma and sees fusion as a bad thing". Then let her heal by fusing with someone she likes! "Peridot is asexual" Yeah, I don't buy it. I've seen the show. Girl is a lesbian, Rebecca you are lying. You just didn't wanted to bother to draw what a Lapidot fusion would look like.

Em, anyway.

Malachite said:
I did like at least some of the episodes. Jasper's was good. Bluebird is fucking awesome.

You know, even though it was funny how Aquamrine and Eyeball did not gave a shit about Steven's speeches, I really wish Bluebird actually had a purpose on Future instead of showing up for just one episode. Also, her design is ugly.

Whatever happened to Navy and the rest of the Ruby Squad anyway?

Also Jasper should have stayed shattered. Hot take, but it would have been much more impactful.

Malachite said:
But nawr. If your family who haven't been able to connect with you really for years and try to cheer you up by doing what they only know, and you kinda just go "dont care, dont like that anymore" its a kick to the balls for them trying to do something nice. Also I'm 99% sure he made up being vegan just to reject the gems because it NEVER comes up again (iirc anyways).

Are...Are you getting mad at that one episode where the Gems wanted to play tag with Steven and he just didn't wanted to because he was no longer a child? Dude. Seriously?

I could understand someone calling out Steven and call him a jerk on the episode where he gets mad at his dad, but the fucking tag episode?!?

Malachite said:
But - I dunno if I like the idea of the Avatar being the next big villain. I mean, in theory it's kinda cool to have the new villain be this master of the bending arts, but... also, why Korra? Why not just start a new show about a new avatar and a new villain? Given the twitter post Pollix posted, it seems like people agree with it... and given that she is a gay character, and the history of making villains gay as a demonizing tactic... dunno, doesn't sit right with me.

Dude, it's not gonna happen. We all know it. They're not gonna give the Korra haters validation. If anything, they'll make fun of the Korra haters, their criticisms, and instead show Korra as a flawed but ultimately good Avatar.


All right, now let me respond Hee-Ho's comments.



Hee-Ho - Group: Member - Total Posts: 4902
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Posted on: 03/06/25 11:13PM

Narukovore said:
so really you're just mad your imaginative no Steven show wasn't made.

Are...Are you getting mad at that one episode where the Gems wanted to play tag with Steven and he just didn't wanted to because he was no longer a child? Dude. Seriously?

I could understand someone calling out Steven and call him a jerk on the episode where he gets mad at his dad, but the fucking tag episode?!?

I can't wait your response to me lol


and instead show Korra as a flawed but ultimately good Avatar.

They don't even do that, judging by the later seasons.



Narukovore - Group: Member - Total Posts: 2480
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Posted on: 03/06/25 11:48PM

Hee-Ho said:
Narukovore said:
You mean Steven in Future? When he snapped after all the shit he went through? Yeah, what an asshole :/

You can say that the same to Ruby Rose, but that doesn't stop the fact that it's poorly written and unlearned.
I can list a lot of characters who went through this journey who were actually genuine. With Steven, he was never punished from his mistakes (even from the start), instead the show gives him free powers like a giveaway to the point he became a gary stu. Even if there was a attempt, they downplay his actions for plot sake.

I know jack shit about RWBY, so comparing Ruby Rose to Steven means nothing to me.

And look, I'm not gonna say "no other character in fiction has suffered as much as Steven Universe", I'm not an idiot. Steven's trauma in Future is a joke compared to the shit most fictional characters had gone through.

And I'm not going to argue about the writing on the series or Steven as a character. Because no, the writing isn't all that good.
Though defenders will fight you on this, young Steven (not Future Steven) could be argued is a Gary Stu. There's some moments in the show where things don't go Steven's way (like trying to save Eyeball only to almost die if it wasn't for the Crystal Gems arriving at the right time), but he's quite obviously meant to be a messiah type character, adored by most of the cast and able to solve things with pacifism by the end of the show. And the execution IS flawed, to say the least.
I already said that the Diamonds getting redeemed (or rather, "we'll ignore your crimes because you're Steven's aunties and need to get along" and not properly being redeemed or punished for their MANY crimes) was a dumb decision and its execution was lackluster.

And here's the thing about Steven in Future: I liked what they where going for. Having Steven experience trauma, PTSD, questioning himself, seeing his ugly side, growing distant to his loved ones and family, even his own dad, going in a downward spiral that ultimately led to him breaking his pacifist nature, fighting Jasper to the death and shattering her. It was ALMOST a good story.
But then, they ruined it. Jasper was shattered only temporarily and was revived, no consequences besides the "almost killed her". And even though Steven went through the ultimate cosmic punishment, mutating into a monster, they didn't have monster Steven do anything (like say, destroy Beach City or New Homeworld) and they solved everything by hugging monster Steven and Steven finally going to a psychologist OFFSCREEN.

Hee-Ho said:
Eh.
But even with its flaws, I wouldn't call the series "awful". More of a mixed bag, with good elements but bad execution.

You can like the show, I enjoyed it out of how bad this is. And it makes it funnier when I check BTS pbs.twimg.com/media/DEk4dTCWsAARjq8.jpg. But I'm not pretending that this show is "mid", because it isn't. Sure, there are good things about the show like you said, but it's like a diamond in a sea of shit.

Here's where I stand: I'm neither an active defender of the show or a hater. I liked the show, but was disappointed by how it ended. The stuff I like about it, I still like. Most haters of the show focus too much on the negatives and ignore why the show was praised back in the day in the first place. It is most certainly NOT a flawless masterpiece and there's a lot of wasted potential and bad executions. The show's defenders also need to realize that, that is not wrong to criticize Steven Universe. The show deserves some praise for what it did right, but also deserves criticisms for what it did wrong. You can't just mindlessly praise Rebecca Sugar and think she can do no wrong. And you can't mindlessly shit on the show and Rebecca, to the point of becoming Lily Orchard (no one wants to be like Lily Orchard).

You can like or dislike the show. Just don't be an asshole about it.


Also I'm gonna respond to your comment you made on the thread I made about favorite shows here because I specifically made a rule of the thread to "no fights allowed"
Hee-Ho said:
Narukovore said:
If someone on this thread says something like "My favorite show is Steven Universe" DO NOT respond their comment with "You like that garbage show?". Likewise, do not engage with users that are clearly trying to start a fight.

You made this thread because I called you out from this:
You mean Steven in Future? When he snapped after all the shit he went through? Yeah, what an asshole :/

When I stated why, and even said it's fine to like the show, even I did.
If you made this thread as a coping mechanism over saying a opinion, then it's really pathetic.

No. I didn't made it because of your response, which I just recently read. I made the thread in response to this thread's TITLE. "The Legend of Korra is utter dogshit". To be honest, I'm tired of negative threads like this, especially since they invite fights and discourse, so I made a positivity focused thread where not only we talk about shows we like, but where NO FIGHTS are allowed.



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Posted on: 03/06/25 11:54PM

Lmfao that is just hilarious



Malachite - Group: Member - Total Posts: 56
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Posted on: 03/07/25 12:00AM

Narukovore said:
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Geez, I didn't mean to make you that upset about it, I'm not being all that serious and pressed - I make jokes on the internet, not genuine violent posts acting like cartoons characters shot my dog, pissed in my well, and released locusts on my crops. But since you don't recall it I decided to actually just go research and see if I could find where that rumor started then because I like updating my facts and keeping my mind open.
Her quote word-for-word that was passed around was “There are no unimportant characters.” which was played over a shot of Emerald, and that was probably where it started. I believe, though can't find them, that there were quotes from Sugar that she did want to do more things with homeworld as I remember them more clearly than the article that was passed around tumblr I initially believed. Is that stupid? Probably, but I was also 14 and unmedicated.
I'm sorry I brought it up at all if it upset you. I'm not trying to start arguments, I just come on here to partially shitpost and share my earnest thoughts sometimes. I was upset that it didn't go the way the rumors went, yeah, but ultimately I'm not trying to put the show on a cross.
Also - quotes might've come from the official Steven Universe podcast when I think about it.

Also, I was talking about the breakfast part. I understand Steven tag, that's a genuinely kid activity and I get how he wants to be seen as an adult by them. But I felt it was the most genuine out of the three things they tried in that episode. And yeah, the episode where he shits on Greg is a more valid example.
... BUT I agree, Jasper should've stayed shattered. Bluebird's design is hell but I loved the plot of the episode and the concept of a fusion born from mutual hate rather than love, and it deserved more than just the one.

Anyways, I'm stepping out of here because I don't have much to say further. The Korra thing wasn't a wish, it was a worry. I want her to not be a real villain.

Narukovore said:
No. I didn't made it because of your response, which I just recently read. I made the thread in response to this thread's TITLE. "The Legend of Korra is utter dogshit". To be honest, I'm tired of negative threads like this, especially since they invite fights and discourse, so I made a positivity focused thread where not only we talk about shows we like, but where NO FIGHTS are allowed.

Just keep making threads like that instead of engaging in negative ones is your best bet, then. I usually just ignore these threads but I was curious about it, then let myself too loose. [shrug]



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