Child porn refers to live children, not anime-style children.

There are still images of child JAVs... and even more often; child idols.

I don't know if that's what he was refferring to or not though. The idols slip by pretty easily because they are often not explicit and their actual ages are not always known.

I believe we killed a good chunk of those that had somehow stuck around not too long ago.

If you see more of those images that you're unsure about, please PM it to one of us.

Darn Asian women... can't always tell the difference between a 12 year old and a 30 year old, seen?

I'm not the type to usually bring up these things and I'm really the last one to complain, but in all honesty I think this rule should have some exceptions and compromises.
post #1133786 is well drawn and on character for something done by a western artist (new zealand to be exact) and is tasteful but has to be removed, which is kind of sad considering stuff like
post #946040 and post #677893 get to stay because they're japanese, regardless of the fact they're both rife with insults to the human form and full of errors.
Granted I know people are entitled to their own tastes and there's nothing wrong with that, but there's a little bit of unbalance where pictures of characters drawn for the shallow reason of just being something to fap to being spared as opposed to actual ART of the characters in question being deleted.

post #1134247 is another extreme example by an unknown japanese artist who only drew this as fapping material
As opposed to pixmilk who had his work removed for being non-japanese even though he clearly loved gainax's productions and drew it as such
seen here: img4.gelbooru.com//images...fc83a211f2e20ace18eba.jpg

While in the long run it's pretty much up to lozer to take this post into consideration or whatever. I really hope I brought some attention to this matter.

So basically, the way I look at it is if the rules changed then it would end up something around "images that look good" or "images that we think should be here", etc etc. Basically it turns into a slightly scientific process of weeding out images to a completely subjective shithole, or basically danbooru without approvals. I think some consideration into exceptions should be made, because obviously there are some very good artists that aren't Japanese at all. It seems the best way to go about this would to add something to the rules along the lines of:

-Most non-Japanese artists are not allowed. Exceptions are only made in exceptional situations. Don't expect them to be allowed.

Or something like that. Basically hold the non Japanese art to a much higher standard then what would normally be required. There are exceptions, but not very many. A majority of them have probably been mentioned in this thread.

On another note, I personally think it's silly to allow all cosplayers and JAV related pictures. Now cosplayers I can somewhat understand, but I don't see why we have to allow non-Japanese ones. Sourcing a cosplay picture to a country is probably a bit easier then sourcing artwork to a country, why not make it japanese only? JAV related stuff has nothing to do with the animation industry at all, and I have no idea why they are allowed on the site. IMO they just get in the way, and I haven't come across anyone who looks for them on gelbooru. Granted I don't know that many people on gelbooru, but I still wouldn't expect very many people to appreciate their spot on the site.

My 42 cents.

^ Not sure about the cosplaying/JAV stuff, but what both of you said about the artist rule pretty much took the words out of my mouth.



I believe I've even suggested that to Lozer before. This would still allow us to weed out all the Ben 10/Avatar shit that got the rule this bad in the first place, but allow talented artists like Tima, Pixmilk, or basically anything ShadowBladeEdge posted to stay, which, in theory, fixes the the rule. I don't see any problems with this.

The reasoning I was given, the rule got changed to its current state due to people complaining about stuff that got deleted, I've suggested before that we shouldn't play nice with those people.

And even with that reason, there's just as much complaining about the rule now as there was back then(maybe moreso), the only big changes as far as I know is that a few respected users are also complaining, and we now have to get rid of good artists as well.

EDIT: I can't spell.

Well people are always going to complain about the rules. If we allow everything then they will complain about the low quality. If you only allow good non Japanese artists then they will say that some artist they think is good should be allowed. If you only allow Japanese artists then you have people complaining about the good stuff that gets left out. The way I look at it that rule would give gelbooru a better quality of content then the other options, and if the user base is going to bitch about everything then at least we should have good content.

The cosplaying/JAV really relates to how the site is viewed. Personally I see it as basically a large image bank of art related in one way or another to the Japanese animation "style", or whatever you wish to call it. In that case then cosplaying would fit (although personally I'd rather it be "pictures of cosplaying that were taken in japan") and JAVs would not. As the rules stand right now the aim of the site is somewhat unclear. It doesn't seem to be aimed at all Japanese related art in general (I personally very much enjoy urban photography, japan has lots of very nice architecture), yet at the same time it's not quite aimed at anything else either. If it was Japanese pornography then we wouldn't have so many SFW images (the only way I could see JAVs fitting would be this), and if it was what I mentioned at the beginning of this paragraph then JAVs would have never been allowed in the first place, with the exception of those cosplaying JAV things.

It has several aims.
Now I have to go save all the cute maid pictures on the off chance that they get nuked.

That'd be a very off chance.