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lozertuser - Group: The Fake Administrator - Total Posts: 2219
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Ideas on how to deal with tag poisoning?
Posted on: 02/24/09 03:20PM

I need ideas on how to deal with tag poisoning. Tag poisoning has mostly came from Dischlerb, who refuses to check the pm inbox although it is at the top of the screen in bright green letters. This person the main reason why I am starting this thread.

My ideas:
- I need to redirect users if they have mail and force them to read it.

- I need to require a working email address to be able to register an account (I don't want to do this really.)

- I need to be more firm and ban users for defacing our tags.

- Force users to read mail, and click a link letting me know they read it. If not, they can not edit tags or add posts to the site.

I need suggestions. Please, help. T_T



Zafmg - Group: Member - Total Posts: 27
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Posted on: 02/24/09 07:06PM

Would a ban involve totally restricting access to the site, or simply barring the user from making comments, changing tags, uploading images, et cetera?

Two decent sources of inspiration would be Wikipedia and various forums / imageboards.

Wikipedia often has problems with vandals, and - if I recall correctly - they are quick to block any intentional vandals from making further changes. If the incorrect change was simply a misguided attempt to improve the article, a warning is dispatched.

Most modern VBulletin forums use an infraction system. Breaking the rules result in an infraction; too many infractions and you're banned for either a few weeks or forever.

I like the idea of temporary banning for two or three instances of misconduct, followed by a swift, merciless ultra-ban if the misconduct continues post-ban.

Forcing users to read their mail (at least if it's from an admin) is a good idea.

Email address verification has a few issues, not the least of which is the abundance of temporary email solutions.

And yeah, a firm hand with regards to the users might be a good idea.



biibii801 - Group: Retired Staff - Total Posts: 164
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Posted on: 02/25/09 01:56AM

Maybe something like 3 strikes and you're out? So if someone has a strike against them, they can only view images, not comment, upload, or edit them for a certain amount of time, and after having so many "strikes" they're permanently banned from the site. Or it could even depend on the severity and how often it happens. Like if someone goes through and purposefully improperly tags pages and pages of images, they get an automatic ban; a few images and they're just suspended, so to speak. All of this obviously requires being firmer in tagging policies and punishment when those policies aren't followed.

As for the mail issue, would redirecting straight to the inbox whenever they click a link on the navigation bar (Posts, Comments, etc.) be possible? I'm not a coding expert, so I'm not sure it would work, but I'd suggest if there's an unread message in the inbox (especially from an admin), an auto redirect to the message itself as soon as the user logs in/clicks something on the navigation bar would be best. Alternatively, maybe a way to specify if the unread message is from an admin or just a regular user? People may ignore the message if they think it's just a random person.
Suspension, as mentioned in my first paragraph, for not replying or not following any instructions given by an admin via a PM would probably solve the problem, too.

I don't think you need to require a registered e-mail address so much as maybe just going back to only allowing registered users to tag images would be best, so those who intentionally mistag images can be singled out and banned/"suspended". But the big problem is unregistered users who can only leave a comment with tags that need to be added/removed, that may not be seen by someone who's registered.

Sorry for rambling, again. I hope I was clear enough...




Radii - Group: Member - Total Posts: 6
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Posted on: 03/02/09 01:38AM

Why not just make it so that all edits to a post is moderated?
To do this, you'll probably have to add in something called "Remove Tags" or "Add Tags"

Else your other option is to make it so that you can add more groups: One group who can only comment + vote while the other can comment, vote, change tags, etc. Where, in such cases, you can check off people for being in that group which can change tags and such.

For example, have a group called "Users" and another group called "Editors", who can change tags, or something alike.



rwx - Group: Member - Total Posts: 7
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Posted on: 03/22/09 01:40PM

Gradual privilege elevation: new users get a reasonable limit of allowed instant edits per unit of time of your choice, the rest are premoderated. The limit gets relaxed as some function of positive contributions.



jesus202 - Group: Member - Total Posts: 3
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Posted on: 03/22/09 06:00PM

if theyre a new user and want to edit, redirect them to a forum post. in that post, theyll have to read some basics and then post to show they understand. punishment for abuse could be banned account, and IP ban for subsequent infractions.

on your ideas:
- I need to be more firm and ban users for defacing our tags.
- Force users to read mail, and click a link letting me know they read it. If not, they can not edit tags or add posts to the site.

those two seem good

on another note, when people add images, how about forcing them to add (some) tags as well? i see there are a lot of "tagme" images without any additional tags. what's the point of uploading if theyre not easily accessible to the audience?



lozertuser - Group: The Fake Administrator - Total Posts: 2219
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Posted on: 03/22/09 08:02PM

I was thinking about that and was considering a pool of posts, and just recently a notification that some of the uploads that were made using an account contain less than X tags and should be updated. Not sure how that second one is going to work, but it would be interesting...



grgspunk - Group: Retired Staff - Total Posts: 34
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Posted on: 03/31/09 04:19AM

Actually, I would recommend that we limit forced PMs to just those coming from mods/admins. If it gets abused by spammers, the rest of us could be having constant popups containing junk PMs.



Kanrabat - Group: Member - Total Posts: 51
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Posted on: 05/02/09 12:56PM

Hi. I'm a new subscriber here and I often notice lazy tagging or often obvious fetish that are not tagged. (puffy_nipples, why are you forgotten so much?) One thing I hate above all is to see the futanari tag with the yuri tag. Futa is not and will never be yuri, stop the confusion! So, I'd love to be able to remove the yuri tag from the futanari pictures. And if I care enough about said picture, I'll add all the missing tags I can. I dunno if Gelbooru have an "auto-correcting" tags feature, but it would help against tag misspelling.

Oh, and OP, what do you mean by "tag poisoning"? Is it obviously about a troll who love to mess around with the tags? Beside the yuri-futanari mess I see sometimes, I didn't notice any obvious messing around... unless the vandal erase all the tag and leave a "3894tfg318osdvfsgy" tag to make the picture virtually invisible...



Xiombarg - Group: Retired Staff - Total Posts: 12
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Posted on: 05/02/09 05:01PM

A system of, say, a minimum of three valid tags before any image is accepted by the system might help a bit with the Lack of Tags problem. Perhaps something limiting new/unregistered/unvalidated users to Only use Valid tags. Hard to check accuracy, but it might cut the abuse Down a bit.

Just a few brain-droppings on the issue.

Good Luck, though! It's always a challenge when you have something open to the general populace, mostly because ANYONE can get in and post/tinker/abuse it ;)



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