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Yavie - Group: Member - Total Posts: 390
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Posted on: 09/23/11 12:41AM

Jerl said:
Wrong
Actually the things I said was right... That I didn't include the things you mentioned had nothing to do with my actual post since it answered how motivators and magazine were similar.

Jerl said:
Motivators are both image macros, and extremely unfunny attempts at being funny.
While a magazine cover might not have text superimposed for any humorous effect, it both have text superimposed and the image can be viewed as a caption in a way. So it it has a similar creation structure to that of an image macro.

Jerl said:
These two are the exact reasons why motivators aren't allowed; in fact, one of them is specficially quoted in the Terms of Service.
Actually only one is mentioned (the screencap one) the other one seems to be just an addendum.

This part however is the part that is important: "Upload the high quality image instead."

The other "they are not funny" I think, should be interpreted as -- "stop uploading images of lower quality just so you can spam the site with your western jokes".

Which brings us back to the whole "higher quality" reasoning. If the images are obscured by the text or otherwise cropped to fit the magazine cover -- while an unchanged version of the image already exist... then the magazine cover could be argued to be of lower quality. At least in the cases where the original image can be found.

Jerl said:
Jerl said:
We generally tend to keep all forms of an image that aren't exact duplicates

(including resizing, jpeg artifacting, watermarks, and scanning differences of course).
Including? Don't you mean excluding? Also, you forgot cropped images.



Jerl - Group: The Real Administrator - Total Posts: 6711
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Posted on: 09/23/11 08:47AM

Yavie said:
Jerl said:
Wrong
Actually the things I said was right... That I didn't include the things you mentioned had nothing to do with my actual post since it answered how motivators and magazine were similar.

Jerl said:
Motivators are both image macros, and extremely unfunny attempts at being funny.
While a magazine cover might not have text superimposed for any humorous effect, it both have text superimposed and the image can be viewed as a caption in a way. So it it has a similar creation structure to that of an image macro.

Jerl said:
These two are the exact reasons why motivators aren't allowed; in fact, one of them is specficially quoted in the Terms of Service.
Actually only one is mentioned (the screencap one) the other one seems to be just an addendum.

This part however is the part that is important: "Upload the high quality image instead."

The other "they are not funny" I think, should be interpreted as -- "stop uploading images of lower quality just so you can spam the site with your western jokes".

Which brings us back to the whole "higher quality" reasoning. If the images are obscured by the text or otherwise cropped to fit the magazine cover -- while an unchanged version of the image already exist... then the magazine cover could be argued to be of lower quality. At least in the cases where the original image can be found.


No, image macros aren't against the rules because of text superimposed across them. They're against the rules because they're image macros and they are unfunny. Just like western artists aren't disallowed because their work is often poor, but rather simply because they're western artists. Just like paysites aren't against the rules because of the watermarks that they slap on their images, but rather, simply the fact that they're paysites makes them against the rules. There is no deeper reasoning behind image macros being against the rules; they're against the rules because lozer doesn't want them here, and that makes them against the rules. And specifically what he doesn't want here are image macros.

I'm going to be straightforward: we don't care about text being superimposed on images. What we care about is whether that text is stupid.

Yavie said:
Jerl said:
Jerl said:
We generally tend to keep all forms of an image that aren't exact duplicates

(including resizing, jpeg artifacting, watermarks, and scanning differences of course).
Including? Don't you mean excluding? Also, you forgot cropped images.


Yes, that was my mistake. Sorry about that.



BlueBaroness - Group: Dewrito Pope - Total Posts: 1278
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Posted on: 09/23/11 12:39PM

Another quick question: If someone crops a demotivational picture (so that you can't see the text), can I still delete it for being a demotivator?



Xalrun - Group: Moderator - Total Posts: 4713
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Posted on: 09/23/11 12:40PM

it's probably poorly compressed or a screencap so sure, I guess.



BlueBaroness - Group: Dewrito Pope - Total Posts: 1278
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Posted on: 09/23/11 12:46PM

This is the post in question, if it helps: post #853280

I've seen a few other people try that as well.



Xalrun - Group: Moderator - Total Posts: 4713
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Posted on: 09/23/11 12:49PM

By the order of our superior Deusexclamus, you can kill them.



BlueBaroness - Group: Dewrito Pope - Total Posts: 1278
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Posted on: 09/23/11 01:03PM

Okay.



jedi1357 - Group: Moderator - Total Posts: 5778
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Posted on: 09/23/11 02:16PM

BlueBaroness said:
This is the post in question, if it helps: post #853280

I've seen a few other people try that as well.


Drama story:

I found the original non-croped version on Pixiv. Then I uploaded it to Gelboorou. Only after that did I find out that the artist was from Taiwan. Now I have to delete my own upload.


*Sigh.*

post #1293054



internetlovemachine - Group: Fleet Admiral Cat - Total Posts: 3836
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Posted on: 09/23/11 03:36PM

jedi1357 said:

Drama story:

I found the original non-croped version on Pixiv. Then I uploaded it to Gelboorou. Only after that did I find out that the artist was from Taiwan. Now I have to delete my own upload.


*Sigh.*

post #1293054


Well

Except for how you don't, and none of us would delete an image that good.

I already said "Don't" to you twice now. Stop being masochistic. What you're doing is bad.



jedi1357 - Group: Moderator - Total Posts: 5778
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Posted on: 09/23/11 04:07PM

internetlovemachine said:

Except for how you don't, and none of us would delete an image that good.


None of us? All of Kid's other works have been deleted from Gel and not by me. 30+ of them.



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