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ihato - Group: Member - Total Posts: 116
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Mods should give users a heads-up when they delete their comments.
Posted on: 07/02/19 07:51PM

So despite the banner saying "User comments are mostly unmoderated" I had my comments removed numerous times to the point I decided to take screenshots and make this thread. Mainly because I want to know why you're doing this, so I guess I'll let you in on some exmaples of removed comments so far:

0x0.st/z_wH.png (commenting on deleted image)
0x0.st/z_wL.png (arousal enhancement)
0x0.st/z_w9.png (arousal enhancement)
0x0.st/z_wf.png (joke)

Now be my guest if you're about to type "Well, your comments were totally autistic anyway", but I'll just say that unlike some of your commenters, I never make references to my family ("This is what I want to do with my daughter/sister!") and never make ostensibly pedophilic remarks ("Every child should experience getting fucked like this!"). I mean, take a look at the 2nd post in this thread for example: gelbooru.com/index.php?pa...ew&id=4049&pid=80

All in all, it's actually not that you do remove my comments that bothers me, it's that you're not telling me why (ever). When I accidentally upload border-line toddlercon, or a duplicate image or tag something inappropriately, I get a message from the mod what I did wrong and I always concede with it and move on. With comments, I get nothing. No message. It's just secretly removed without a warning and it's really annoying to come back to an image just to see it's not there and not know why. I want a mod notice when my comments do get deleted just like I get with tag and upload misdemeanors.



jedi1357 - Group: Moderator - Total Posts: 5747
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Posted on: 07/02/19 09:05PM

Wow, where do I begin. Oh yeah...

First off, this dinosaur of a site doesn't currently support giving automatic mod notices on comment deletion the way it does post deletion. A manual notice will not be given unless you are seen as a mid- to high-level violator of our commenting guidelines. A simple comment here or there isn't worth our time. I do not know if this will be implemented in 0.3 but if you want this feature then I recommend making a ticket in the trac: gelbooru.com/index.php?page=tracker&s=list An anon commentator who goes overboard may have their IP banned since we can't give a notice to an anon. Of course posting a link to something illegal is an immediate ban/report to authorities.

Comments are only (supposed to be) deleted if they violate our commenting guidelines: gelbooru.com/index.php?page=wiki&s=view&id=207

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1. I'm not sure why this was deleted. Best I can think is that it spreads misunderstandable information. Just because a post hasn't been deleted doesn't mean it's not breaking the rules. See: forum #653

2. That's not a comment (as defined by the guidelines above) It's just a story you made up. Again, * Do not write fanfiction for a post.

3. Well, this might have gotten by in the past, this may no longer be the case. Racism is not tolerated and I suppose the same may be true for sexism. Artist are allowed but users are forbidden.

4. I don't know what post this came from but either this is fake dialog or you're talking to the picture.

"take a look at the 2nd post in this thread for example" Yeah, before you even posted this I brought this up on the admin page. After he wakes up he'll look at it and...maybe...do something.



Mderms - Group: I do edits sometimes. - Total Posts: 1298
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Posted on: 07/03/19 07:40AM

I know I don't have a dog in this fight but I think comments should contribute something. Its not just yours, most don't.

And to be fair the mods don't have to tell you jack shit.

Just saying.



ihato - Group: Member - Total Posts: 116
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Posted on: 07/03/19 10:30AM

jedi1357 said:
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2. That's not a comment (as defined by the guidelines above) It's just a story you made up. Again, * Do not write fanfiction for a post.
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4. I don't know what post this came from but either this is fake dialog or you're talking to the picture.
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First of all, does Gelbooru have the ability to search user comments or view a particular comment by id? I mean, I would guess not since the user profile displays a negative number... Fyi in 4. I was just putting context to the image as a joke, cause that's what it looked like. But I can't find the image now though, so yeah.

You could argue it's fanfic, but c'mon. A single sentence isn't fanfic cause that's not a story. I wouldn't even say 2. is fanfic cause I was just describing the image there too. Fanfic in my mind is a story that just totally deviates from what the image was showing such as "After the picture, they went for a coffee :) where he proposed her and they had a lot of kids and happy life!" (or if you like "After the picture he brutally raped her, killed her then dumped her body in a lake.") even though the image shows nothing but a couple holding hands.

My common sense has never told me that just describing or putting context to the image is fanfic. But just to make a point, this is why comment-deletion notices are good thing. This is where a notice would say "No, we actually do consider that fanfic." and there you go. I know it won't be added in this Gelbooru, but the whole issue is pretty trivial so I have little doubts GLB0.3 will be coded properly.

Mderms said:
I know I don't have a dog in this fight but I think comments should contribute something. Its not just yours, most don't.

And to be fair the mods don't have to tell you jack shit.

Just saying.

In my opinion, comments don't need to do anything but enhance the arousal of the person (although jokes are A-Ok in my book also). Source, tag suggestions and translation are useless comments in my opinion because you can just edit the source, tags and add notes respectively even though I understand anons can't do that.

I don't really see what kind "contribution" you want, it's a porn site god damn it. I'm not going to give artistic criticism lol "The crimson color of her pussy is next to perfect! The contrast between the voluptuous cavort next to a ribald prowl of the 6.5incher is brilliant. An overly wondrous image!". C'mon, man.

They're just stupid comments, so I'm not overly defensive that they're deleted. But it would be nice to at least get a notice when they warrant deletion. Sure, of course they don't have to tell me jack shit but then I also won't change jack shit about the way I comment lol. I'll never know what to change. Since you say you want comments that contribute something, just say what you consider contributive and maybe I'll try make more of those in the future.



Mderms - Group: I do edits sometimes. - Total Posts: 1298
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Posted on: 07/03/19 11:49AM

I seem to remember a conversation between another user months back similar to the way this is starting to go that lasted three days and ultimately went nowhere so I'm just gonna drop it there, but I will say this; 90% of the comments on this place is the cringe that you posted above thats barely worthy of the worst fanfictions, let alone something that should really be limited to 200 characters or less. It literally only benefits one person, the poster, and frankly, its weird. Nobody gives two fucks about your fantasies. I can get a good idea of that by looking through most peoples favorites, I don't need it described to me in minute detail what you would do to a god damn drawing.

I'd love to have 90% of the comments never have to disgrace my eyeballs but unfortunately, disabling them through the profile page would remove a full 1/3rd of my ability to explore the site in peace.

Fucking Pornhub has better comment sections than this place.

While we're arguing semantics, there are more safe/questionable images than explicit on here so strictly speaking your assumption that this is a porn site is incorrect. ┐( ̄ヮ ̄)┌




ihato - Group: Member - Total Posts: 116
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Posted on: 07/03/19 01:19PM

Mdterms
It literally only benefits one person, the poster, and frankly, its weird. Nobody gives two fucks about your fantasies.

That's where you're wrong, bud. Cause I, for one, like reading other people's comments like that.

Also I gave you the opportunity to explain what constructive commenting looks like in your opinion, but you say you're not gonna do it and went on a long-winded rant how 90% comments suck here. Well, suit yourself.



jedi1357 - Group: Moderator - Total Posts: 5747
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Posted on: 07/03/19 05:51PM

I just wanted to add, I didn't delete them, I can't find out who did and I can't undelete them. I don't usually bother deleting comments unless they're glaringly bad like adbots, DATASS!, 20 paragraphs of unrelated text, desudesudesudesudesudesudesudesu etc.



Xalrun - Group: Moderator - Total Posts: 4689
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Posted on: 07/04/19 08:47AM

You seem to not realize this is not exclusively a porn site and we never allowed comments that are meant to "arouse" people.



ihato - Group: Member - Total Posts: 116
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Posted on: 07/04/19 10:05AM

Both of you who argue that this is not a porn site have explicit favorites so your argument is invalid. Also I never made NSFW comments on non-NSFW images.



Xalrun - Group: Moderator - Total Posts: 4689
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Posted on: 07/04/19 12:07PM

I said it isn't Exclusively a porn site, just because We favorited the porn doesn't have anything to do with what the site is for.
It also doesn't matter if you made lewd comments on lewd pictures, if you have to talk dirty to the pictures instead of just looking at them and going about your business then you need to rethink your life choices.



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