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Posted on: 08/20/17 04:25PM
jedi1357 said:
The character and program may be Japanese but the model and posts aren't. Not sure if it would fall under screenshot either. I was going to stay neutral about these so another mod will have to decide if they want it restored. (Replying because I was asked on PM) I still don't think it looks all that much like Sasami or even an anime character.
sasami said:
Why would a moderator delete my posts here:
gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3840667
gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3840666
When I have posted innumerable art that has been approved by the mods and am using a Japanese program (thus art) to create it?
Is there a rogue moderator running about?
Why would a moderator delete my posts here:
gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3840667
gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3840666
When I have posted innumerable art that has been approved by the mods and am using a Japanese program (thus art) to create it?
Is there a rogue moderator running about?
The character and program may be Japanese but the model and posts aren't. Not sure if it would fall under screenshot either. I was going to stay neutral about these so another mod will have to decide if they want it restored. (Replying because I was asked on PM) I still don't think it looks all that much like Sasami or even an anime character.
The model is built with the Japanese program...and as I pointed out, there are several posts with the same character that not only have been approved for months now on Gelbooru that I have made, but have received good reviews, to the point someone on your site or a third party have been sharing and highmarking my creations on chan.sankakucomplex.com/
Not sure what has changed about these two posts outside some mod getting a bit overly critical.
Posted on: 08/20/17 05:35PM
What program was used to create the art is irrelevant. All that matters is whether the artist themself is Japanese.
By the way, "not deleted" does not mean approved. We do not have an approval system, so it's incredibly easy for posts to never be seen by a mod at all until someone points them out to us for something.
By the way, "not deleted" does not mean approved. We do not have an approval system, so it's incredibly easy for posts to never be seen by a mod at all until someone points them out to us for something.
Posted on: 08/20/17 05:45PM
Jerl said:
What program was used to create the art is irrelevant. All that matters is whether the artist themself is Japanese.
By the way, "not deleted" does not mean approved. We do not have an approval system, so it's incredibly easy for posts to never be seen by a mod at all until someone points them out to us for something.
What program was used to create the art is irrelevant. All that matters is whether the artist themself is Japanese.
By the way, "not deleted" does not mean approved. We do not have an approval system, so it's incredibly easy for posts to never be seen by a mod at all until someone points them out to us for something.
That doesn't seem to be a factor in a lot of artists here. So what you are saying is you all need to go around deleting all non-Japanese artist postings? And by what measure do you use to gauge whether or not I am Japanese in the first place, merely because I happen reside in the States? And this fits a larger question. Am I then not allowed to post my own art up here, even though your site has made use of my art in the past and in fact shared it / mirrored it elsewhere? Should I look to post elsewhere for my overall projects as an artist?
Posted on: 08/20/17 11:36PM
sasami said:
That doesn't seem to be a factor in a lot of artists here. So what you are saying is you all need to go around deleting all non-Japanese artist postings?
That doesn't seem to be a factor in a lot of artists here. So what you are saying is you all need to go around deleting all non-Japanese artist postings?
To quote our Terms of Service:
Non-Japanese: Anything not drawn by a Japanese artist is not allowed unless given specific exception by the moderation team for quality! Photographs of cosplayers, figures, JAV models, or prominent figures in the industry are acceptable.
Note the part in bold. Basically, what this says is that all artwork by non-Japanese artists is disallowed unless and until a moderator decides to give it an exception due to quality. Yours did not receive an exception.
And by what measure do you use to gauge whether or not I am Japanese in the first place, merely because I happen reside in the States?
That's our biggest indicator. "Japanese artist" does not refer to race or ethnicity, but rather the culture you have lived the most of your life in. A white person with no Japanese ancestry at all would be considered Japanese for the purposes of the site if they were born, raised, and still live there, while a person born in America to both Japanese parents and who lived in America for their whole life would not. Unless we have some documented reason to believe that you were brought up in Japan and moved to America (or elsewhere) later in life, we will assume that the culture you grew up in is the same as the one you currently reside in.
And this fits a larger question. Am I then not allowed to post my own art up here, even though your site has made use of my art in the past and in fact shared it / mirrored it elsewhere? Should I look to post elsewhere for my overall projects as an artist?
There is no rule against posting your own artwork, but it's discouraged, even if you were Japanese. The reason being that Gelbooru is intended to be a curated gallery of high-quality artwork rather than a place for someone to post their own artwork. You won't get in trouble for posting your own artwork, but self-posted artwork is judged with much more scrutiny than artwork posted by a third party. The reason for this is that many artists aren't very good judges of the quality of their work, but if an unrelated third-party feels that a piece of art is good enough to share, it's a lot more likely to be high-quality.
Posted on: 08/21/17 01:30AM
Jerl said:
To quote our Terms of Service:
Note the part in bold. Basically, what this says is that all artwork by non-Japanese artists is disallowed unless and until a moderator decides to give it an exception due to quality. Yours did not receive an exception.
sasami said:
That doesn't seem to be a factor in a lot of artists here. So what you are saying is you all need to go around deleting all non-Japanese artist postings?
That doesn't seem to be a factor in a lot of artists here. So what you are saying is you all need to go around deleting all non-Japanese artist postings?
To quote our Terms of Service:
Non-Japanese: Anything not drawn by a Japanese artist is not allowed unless given specific exception by the moderation team for quality! Photographs of cosplayers, figures, JAV models, or prominent figures in the industry are acceptable.
Note the part in bold. Basically, what this says is that all artwork by non-Japanese artists is disallowed unless and until a moderator decides to give it an exception due to quality. Yours did not receive an exception.
Rather than be petty and list the innumerable non-Japanese artists that are posted on the site, I must ask these questions:
How does one apply for an exception? Will I be able to safely upload projects on here that people like and not worry that they are arbitrarily removed merely because of my residence / nationality? Will the other works of mine that have been up on this site for some months now be subject to removal? Why should I attempt to contribute any creative project I make to this site that is, in my opinion, in line with the culture and theme of the site when 'rules' are arbitrarily and capriciously enforced here that do not exist elsewhere, including many primary Japanese websites where my work is shared up?
Posted on: 08/21/17 09:34AM
There are innumerable non-Japanese artists whose works have received exceptions. There are also likely innumerable non-Japanese artists that are posted on the site that nobody on the moderation team has ever seen, since we do not have any sort of approval system.
There isn't a way to apply for an exception. Exceptions are given on an image-by-image basis; we do not give exception to all of an artist's works, just the ones we've evaluated.
The other works of yours are indeed subject to removal, and have been since they were uploaded.
Like I said, we really don't recommend people contributing their own creative projects to this site.
There isn't a way to apply for an exception. Exceptions are given on an image-by-image basis; we do not give exception to all of an artist's works, just the ones we've evaluated.
The other works of yours are indeed subject to removal, and have been since they were uploaded.
Like I said, we really don't recommend people contributing their own creative projects to this site.
Posted on: 08/21/17 10:20AM
To sum up the answer I go the other day:
- Jap artist/content: OK as long as it's not a huge pile of crap
- Non-jap: good stuff only
(and for both, it doesn't have to belong to a "nope" category)
Also, if some pictures have not been removed while they should have been, it's probably because mods are not machines and don't look at each and every post
- Jap artist/content: OK as long as it's not a huge pile of crap
- Non-jap: good stuff only
(and for both, it doesn't have to belong to a "nope" category)
Also, if some pictures have not been removed while they should have been, it's probably because mods are not machines and don't look at each and every post
Posted on: 08/21/17 06:57PM
post #3841717 isn't part of a manga or doujin, the artist doesn't even mention that it is.
Posted on: 08/21/17 06:59PM
Domestic_Importer said:
post #3841717 isn't part of a manga or doujin, the artist doesn't even mention that it is.
post #3841717 isn't part of a manga or doujin, the artist doesn't even mention that it is.
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