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lordanubis commented at 2015-09-10 11:19:39 » #1811160
Yeah she was originally black, but they made her white when she had the whole subplot about being obsessed with Ron. Typical.
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Yeah she was originally black, but they made her white when she had the whole subplot about being obsessed with Ron. Typical.
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Anonymous commented at 2016-01-15 11:49:44 » #1883421
Nope, she wasn't black. Nor even black-haired. Definitely dark skinned people in the books are Kingsley Shacklebolt, Patil twins and Dean Thomas only. You may add Pansy Parkinson on the grounds of her facial features (definitely black or metis), and Lee Jordan on the grounds of being typical rasta dude. In the books, mind. There's about a dozen more black actors in the films.
Note that before the turn of the century (and pretty much any civilized country being overrun with foul vermin thereafter) there was lower concentration of black people anywhere in northern hemisphere but in America. Much higher quality, though - you could expect a black citizen be as good as or even better mannered than native one, unlike, say, African and American savages.
Would be a smashing move to make the Most Ancient and Noble House of Black literally black, though, what with their fascination with human taxidermy and other voodoo-hoodoo shticks.
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Nope, she wasn't black. Nor even black-haired. Definitely dark skinned people in the books are Kingsley Shacklebolt, Patil twins and Dean Thomas only. You may add Pansy Parkinson on the grounds of her facial features (definitely black or metis), and Lee Jordan on the grounds of being typical rasta dude. In the books, mind. There's about a dozen more black actors in the films.
Note that before the turn of the century (and pretty much any civilized country being overrun with foul vermin thereafter) there was lower concentration of black people anywhere in northern hemisphere but in America. Much higher quality, though - you could expect a black citizen be as good as or even better mannered than native one, unlike, say, African and American savages.
Would be a smashing move to make the Most Ancient and Noble House of Black literally black, though, what with their fascination with human taxidermy and other voodoo-hoodoo shticks.
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Anonymous commented at 2016-02-14 11:39:51 » #1899804
JKR was very involved with the film making process, so while the Lavender role was filled in by a black girl for the first few years, when Miss Brown gained a much more prominent role the character was played by a white actress.
It's kind of like the whole Hermione being black thing. People are constantly going on whether she's black or white. But while JKR never specifies undeniable about the issue in any of the books, JKR DID in fact hand draw the characters when she was first pitching Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone to publishers so she could better show them how she herself imagined them in her own mind. Hermione was drawn as white. (And looking pretty firkin close to how Emma Watson looked in the movies, imo.)
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JKR was very involved with the film making process, so while the Lavender role was filled in by a black girl for the first few years, when Miss Brown gained a much more prominent role the character was played by a white actress.
It's kind of like the whole Hermione being black thing. People are constantly going on whether she's black or white. But while JKR never specifies undeniable about the issue in any of the books, JKR DID in fact hand draw the characters when she was first pitching Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone to publishers so she could better show them how she herself imagined them in her own mind. Hermione was drawn as white. (And looking pretty firkin close to how Emma Watson looked in the movies, imo.)
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Anonymous commented at 2016-02-16 16:16:41 » #1900903
There was absolutely no info on Lavender in the books before the HBP, where she is light skinned, if only because of that scene where was impossible to tell which hands were which. For the sake of clarity, note that Dean or Kingsley skin colour is stated immediately, and for the most of other people of non-British ancestry we have some kind of indicator, most usually their name. For all we know she might have had Arabic or Asian ancestry just as well, but default nationality should be one of the Isles.
jnb, not to offend, but are you perchance "chubby black", have such friend or happen to live in a place with predominant population being that? That might have something to do with you imagination, after all, our mind fills in the bits the book's description lacks from our experience.
Anonymous, film-making was more about the paraphernalia profits and slipping in their chums on background roles, they're been mucking facts and butchering source way since before production started. The stupid uniforms alone made a fortune. They've picked some random girl for the crowd, tagged her with available name... So what if she's black while the original might have been white (not that it was directly stated before the HBP), she doesn't have any lines anyway. For some odd reason there was a bunch of black actors serving no purpose whatsoever, yet Lee (or Colin), who got more lines than all those black actors, minor character though he is, appeared only up the second film, and I didn't see Dean in scenes where he frankly should have been. And we all miss Peeves, of course.
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There was absolutely no info on Lavender in the books before the HBP, where she is light skinned, if only because of that scene where was impossible to tell which hands were which. For the sake of clarity, note that Dean or Kingsley skin colour is stated immediately, and for the most of other people of non-British ancestry we have some kind of indicator, most usually their name. For all we know she might have had Arabic or Asian ancestry just as well, but default nationality should be one of the Isles.
jnb, not to offend, but are you perchance "chubby black", have such friend or happen to live in a place with predominant population being that? That might have something to do with you imagination, after all, our mind fills in the bits the book's description lacks from our experience.
Anonymous, film-making was more about the paraphernalia profits and slipping in their chums on background roles, they're been mucking facts and butchering source way since before production started. The stupid uniforms alone made a fortune. They've picked some random girl for the crowd, tagged her with available name... So what if she's black while the original might have been white (not that it was directly stated before the HBP), she doesn't have any lines anyway. For some odd reason there was a bunch of black actors serving no purpose whatsoever, yet Lee (or Colin), who got more lines than all those black actors, minor character though he is, appeared only up the second film, and I didn't see Dean in scenes where he frankly should have been. And we all miss Peeves, of course.
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