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Anonymous commented at 2012-12-02 03:41:37 » #1215391
Unless that's a peewee nuke of the sort used to take out bridges and tank columns, she's outside the range of lethal effects: for all but the smallest nukes, the most distant deaths and injuries are caused by burns suffered during the initial flash of the explosion. The fact that she's still standing means she hasn't been burned, so she'll be fine.
For comparison purposes, American soldiers were exposed to nuclear explosions at about that distance during tests in the 1950s.
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Unless that's a peewee nuke of the sort used to take out bridges and tank columns, she's outside the range of lethal effects: for all but the smallest nukes, the most distant deaths and injuries are caused by burns suffered during the initial flash of the explosion. The fact that she's still standing means she hasn't been burned, so she'll be fine.
For comparison purposes, American soldiers were exposed to nuclear explosions at about that distance during tests in the 1950s.
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Anonymous commented at 2013-05-07 14:13:14 » #1316459
judging by the size of the cloud its somewhere around 100 kt.
If you're not roasted somehow, 2.5-3 km distance can be safe, but you have to avoid being thrown at something solid or hit by fast flying debris. Which is pretty difficult without a trench. And yeah, you better hope wind is not blowing your way.
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judging by the size of the cloud its somewhere around 100 kt.
If you're not roasted somehow, 2.5-3 km distance can be safe, but you have to avoid being thrown at something solid or hit by fast flying debris. Which is pretty difficult without a trench. And yeah, you better hope wind is not blowing your way.
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KhightMare commented at 2013-08-15 23:02:28 » #1380740
Im pretty sure Anon1 is referring to the Radiation, not the destructive force.
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Im pretty sure Anon1 is referring to the Radiation, not the destructive force.
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jedi1357 commented at 2013-08-15 23:44:09 » #1380771
Nuclear tests are band in my country now (did a lot in the '50s) but luckily other countries like France are advancing the science. Thanks to the research we find that living after "the bomb" is a lot easier than we thought. If you survive the bomb itself then all you have to do is protect yourself from the contaminated environment and you won't feel the effects of it at all or very little. Manny techniques have been developed for this. Of course survival is a matter of distance from ground zero. If you're close enough to get severely burned then you're probably not going to make it.
Looking at this image I would suspect that this girl isn't going to live long. If you're close enough to see the center of the flash then chances are that you have already received a dangerous level of gamma radiation. It only lasts for a brief moment (after a few seconds it's completely gone) but it can cook your insides worse than a microwave.
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Nuclear tests are band in my country now (did a lot in the '50s) but luckily other countries like France are advancing the science. Thanks to the research we find that living after "the bomb" is a lot easier than we thought. If you survive the bomb itself then all you have to do is protect yourself from the contaminated environment and you won't feel the effects of it at all or very little. Manny techniques have been developed for this. Of course survival is a matter of distance from ground zero. If you're close enough to get severely burned then you're probably not going to make it.
Looking at this image I would suspect that this girl isn't going to live long. If you're close enough to see the center of the flash then chances are that you have already received a dangerous level of gamma radiation. It only lasts for a brief moment (after a few seconds it's completely gone) but it can cook your insides worse than a microwave.
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Anonymous commented at 2013-10-23 03:48:03 » #1421812
A lot of time passed since the 50s. Present day nuclear tactics consist in saturating an area with a dozen of submunitions up to several hundreds of kilotonnes each, and attacking with several missiles at once. There is no way to survive what is essentially a nuclear carpet bombing without a shelter. Against which they use megatonne range warheads.
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A lot of time passed since the 50s. Present day nuclear tactics consist in saturating an area with a dozen of submunitions up to several hundreds of kilotonnes each, and attacking with several missiles at once. There is no way to survive what is essentially a nuclear carpet bombing without a shelter. Against which they use megatonne range warheads.
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Anonymous commented at 2013-10-23 04:03:37 » #1421820
"If you see an explosion, and the fireball is bigger than the thumb of your extended arm -- you're close enough to inhale toxic shit and should probably run."
Then user neohylanmay dropped an atomic bomb of clarity on half of reddit's head and posted this.
TL;DR Vault boy is not giving viewers a thumbs up, hes measuring the explosion off in the distance to make sure he's far enough away from it.
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"If you see an explosion, and the fireball is bigger than the thumb of your extended arm -- you're close enough to inhale toxic shit and should probably run."
Then user neohylanmay dropped an atomic bomb of clarity on half of reddit's head and posted this.
TL;DR Vault boy is not giving viewers a thumbs up, hes measuring the explosion off in the distance to make sure he's far enough away from it.
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Anonymous commented at 2016-10-28 23:27:20 » #2041369
Aside from the initial 'thermal radiation' burst during the flash, which is a mixture of light, infrared, x-ray and gamma ray, the vast majority of the radiation from a nuke is alpha particles (stray protons) from decaying fallout. X and gamma radiation cause acute radiation sickness, which is what kills you fast, but air absorbs both types of radiation so it tends to not travel far from the detonation point. Infrared is really more likely to kill you because if you're close enough to get irradiated you're probably close enough to be cooked alive by the heat or at least burned beyond hope of recovery. High megatonnage weapons can cause severe burns at incredible distance (the 50 megaton Tsar Bomba, biggest on record, could cause third-degree burning at 100 km/62 miles from ground zero).
Alpha particles cannot penetrate your skin or even a sheet of paper, they're too massive, so if they don't get into you they won't hurt you. The problem comes from ingesting or inhaling fallout that contains them; alpha radiation takes a very, very long time to decay so if the fallout gets into you it's going to keep irradiating you for months if not years, and that's where you encounter the long-term cancer risks. The key is getting away so the fallout won't land on or around you, and more importantly going away from the prevailing winds, because fallout can be carried hundreds or even thousands of miles once it's in the jet stream.
With that said, you're far more likely to be burned to death by the thermal radiation (if you're close enough) or be killed by flying debris from the shock wave. The shock wave moves at the speed of sound (5 sec per mile or 3 sec per km) but if you can get to shelter or even just get underground before it gets there you're most likely going to make it through alive.
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Aside from the initial 'thermal radiation' burst during the flash, which is a mixture of light, infrared, x-ray and gamma ray, the vast majority of the radiation from a nuke is alpha particles (stray protons) from decaying fallout. X and gamma radiation cause acute radiation sickness, which is what kills you fast, but air absorbs both types of radiation so it tends to not travel far from the detonation point. Infrared is really more likely to kill you because if you're close enough to get irradiated you're probably close enough to be cooked alive by the heat or at least burned beyond hope of recovery. High megatonnage weapons can cause severe burns at incredible distance (the 50 megaton Tsar Bomba, biggest on record, could cause third-degree burning at 100 km/62 miles from ground zero).
Alpha particles cannot penetrate your skin or even a sheet of paper, they're too massive, so if they don't get into you they won't hurt you. The problem comes from ingesting or inhaling fallout that contains them; alpha radiation takes a very, very long time to decay so if the fallout gets into you it's going to keep irradiating you for months if not years, and that's where you encounter the long-term cancer risks. The key is getting away so the fallout won't land on or around you, and more importantly going away from the prevailing winds, because fallout can be carried hundreds or even thousands of miles once it's in the jet stream.
With that said, you're far more likely to be burned to death by the thermal radiation (if you're close enough) or be killed by flying debris from the shock wave. The shock wave moves at the speed of sound (5 sec per mile or 3 sec per km) but if you can get to shelter or even just get underground before it gets there you're most likely going to make it through alive.
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Anonymous commented at 2018-11-03 03:36:20 » #2298412
Turns out, killing enemy soldiers slowly while leaving their weapons intact isn't a very useful thing to do, so nobody keeps much of an arsenal of neutron bombs around.
Yes, there are all sorts of ways you can use a nuclear weapon to cause large numbers of slow, lingering deaths. But killing the enemy before he can kill you is much more effective, so in an actual nuclear war, nobody's going to do those things.
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Turns out, killing enemy soldiers slowly while leaving their weapons intact isn't a very useful thing to do, so nobody keeps much of an arsenal of neutron bombs around.
Yes, there are all sorts of ways you can use a nuclear weapon to cause large numbers of slow, lingering deaths. But killing the enemy before he can kill you is much more effective, so in an actual nuclear war, nobody's going to do those things.
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