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BaconMinion commented at 2024-01-22 07:57:11 » #2860186
I'll take a machine over shitty people with a political agenda any day of the year.
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I'll take a machine over shitty people with a political agenda any day of the year.
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VampireQueenDespair commented at 2024-01-22 19:55:52 » #2860289
I don't give a shit about the political side of it or anything, I just think that when your job is to translate things and you do something other than that, you didn't do your job and someone who will do the job they have been assigned should take that job. The point of localization is to fix the awkwardness of changing grammar and making metaphorical and figurative speech translate, not to change the actual writer's meanings. Languages are weird and varied so a 1:1 translation often fails, which becomes more frequent the less the languages are related. It's fairly easy most of the time to directly translate between, say, English and German. The less 1:1 the languages are, the more fixing you'll need for things like metaphors and figures of speech. To me, the original is bad for the same reason it's bad when dubs get rid of the honorifics and change to western name order.
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I don't give a shit about the political side of it or anything, I just think that when your job is to translate things and you do something other than that, you didn't do your job and someone who will do the job they have been assigned should take that job. The point of localization is to fix the awkwardness of changing grammar and making metaphorical and figurative speech translate, not to change the actual writer's meanings. Languages are weird and varied so a 1:1 translation often fails, which becomes more frequent the less the languages are related. It's fairly easy most of the time to directly translate between, say, English and German. The less 1:1 the languages are, the more fixing you'll need for things like metaphors and figures of speech. To me, the original is bad for the same reason it's bad when dubs get rid of the honorifics and change to western name order.
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BaconMinion commented at 2024-01-23 00:46:33 » #2860324
Imagine being so indoctrinated that your brain is entirely smooth.
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Imagine being so indoctrinated that your brain is entirely smooth.
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SadSap commented at 2024-01-23 01:39:58 » #2860339
@Kaoshima Yeah no, that's pretty fucking dumb and inaccurate. I'd hope you were just trolling. The original had nothing to do with "patriarchal standards", nothing about it being exclusively men, and nothing about Lucoa knowing what "patriarchal standards" would be. The hilariously ironic thing is that the word "patriarchy" implies that only men would have an issue with Lucoa's body when you have a fuckton of women that'd be complaining or jealous about her body. The original mangaka took issue with this change. That should prove without a doubt it was a fuck up. It has nothing to do with "challenging my worldview", as if I needed something like that in an anime that has nothing to do with that. I'm open to new things, and I've already deciphered this change and it's meaning as stupid and flawed. Stop lumping people who have a problem with dumb changes like these into one big category.
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@Kaoshima Yeah no, that's pretty fucking dumb and inaccurate. I'd hope you were just trolling. The original had nothing to do with "patriarchal standards", nothing about it being exclusively men, and nothing about Lucoa knowing what "patriarchal standards" would be. The hilariously ironic thing is that the word "patriarchy" implies that only men would have an issue with Lucoa's body when you have a fuckton of women that'd be complaining or jealous about her body. The original mangaka took issue with this change. That should prove without a doubt it was a fuck up. It has nothing to do with "challenging my worldview", as if I needed something like that in an anime that has nothing to do with that. I'm open to new things, and I've already deciphered this change and it's meaning as stupid and flawed. Stop lumping people who have a problem with dumb changes like these into one big category.
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SadSap commented at 2024-01-24 07:40:52 » #2860600
@Kaoshima. I know what the word patriarchy means, and it's obvious here they used it in a specific way, ESPECIALLY after the voice director/voice actress confirmed her own strong personal biases. Aka, ordinary anime fans who dislikes dub changes like these are getting lumped in right with the racist, sexist, incel weeb types. I have a problem with implying that men are solely the only reason why people would have an issue with huge tittied women showing too much skin in public. Again, plenty of women would bitch about women looking like Lucoa, ironically even the terminally online geek feminists who complain all day about "oversexualized" big titty female characters and would blame the patriarchy on everything. Lastly, I don't see Lucoa as the type to quickly blame the "the patriarchy" instead of just saying "humans" or "prudes".
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@Kaoshima. I know what the word patriarchy means, and it's obvious here they used it in a specific way, ESPECIALLY after the voice director/voice actress confirmed her own strong personal biases. Aka, ordinary anime fans who dislikes dub changes like these are getting lumped in right with the racist, sexist, incel weeb types. I have a problem with implying that men are solely the only reason why people would have an issue with huge tittied women showing too much skin in public. Again, plenty of women would bitch about women looking like Lucoa, ironically even the terminally online geek feminists who complain all day about "oversexualized" big titty female characters and would blame the patriarchy on everything. Lastly, I don't see Lucoa as the type to quickly blame the "the patriarchy" instead of just saying "humans" or "prudes".
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Marleyansimp commented at 2024-09-03 01:35:15 » #2914638
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